[SoC 2007] User-friendly wifi browser proposal

[Hubert Feyrer]

I realize the application is going to be submitted tomorrow, but I
thank you for your time if you are able to review it.

It's not clear to me what you are proposing - some frontend using NetBSD's
existing infrastructure? What are the deliverables?
Are you familiar with the interfaces in NetBSD, which ones will you
need/use?

See http://www.netbsd.org/contrib/soc-application.html for some questions
that we'd like to see answers in your Google application...


- Hubert

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[Gordon Stratton]

Post by Hubert Feyrer
It's not clear to me what you are proposing - some frontend using NetBSD's
existing infrastructure? What are the deliverables?
Are you familiar with the interfaces in NetBSD, which ones will you
need/use?

Hey Hubert,

I tried to answer those questions in the detailed proposal, which is
on the website I linked in my original post. I hope that answers your
questions, it seems to me like you may have only seen the abstract I
attached. I followed the guidelines you linked in your post for the
detailed proposal.

Thanks for reading,

Gordon

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[David Young]

Hello,
I've been preparing a project proposal for the Google's Summer of
Code, and I'd really like to get input from everybody as to the
viability of this project, as well as things that people would like to
see done in this project as the summary on the NetBSD project's page
is short. I've attached the abstract that would be submitted in the
application as well as created a webpage[1] for the detailed portion
of the application, but they reflect my personal interpretation of the
project requirements, so other input would be great.

I recommend doing your development using an Atheros a/b/g card. The
drivers for so-called "dumb packet engines" (ath, atw, ral, rtw) should
be most net80211-like in scanning. In general, drivers for the Intel
cards (ipw, iwi), the Cisco/Intersil/Lucent cards (an, wi) and others
with a firmware, will not work right with the net80211 scanning API.

Please bear in mind that with NetBSD's ifconfig, we cannot presently
configure all of the WiFi options that the kernel supports. It will
probably be necessary to activate wpa_supplicant in order to associate
with any WPA/WPA2 network.

Dave

[Steven M. Bellovin]

On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 23:41:28 -0500

Post by David Young
Please bear in mind that with NetBSD's ifconfig, we cannot presently
configure all of the WiFi options that the kernel supports. It will
probably be necessary to activate wpa_supplicant in order to associate
with any WPA/WPA2 network.

The whole question of setting media options and interfacing with
dhclient requires some thought.



--Steve Bellovin, http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb

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[pancake]

I proposed this project the past year, coz i'm not a student I was
unable to do achieve it. BTW i started to write the wistumbler3
project. There's a mailing list with few archives (that you
should probably visit to get ideas and so).

BTW I've a minimal 'user-frienldy', ncurses based wireless
stumbler using libwist (a wireless abstraction layer for different
wireless kernel APIs), it mostly works but it needs more work
and I'm not planning to work actively on it, so i'm working on
'radare' nowadays (http://radare.nopcode.org/).

For more info about wistumbler:

+ mailing list
http://lists.nopcode.org/mailman/listinfo/wistumbler2-dev

+ archives
http://lists.nopcode.org/pipermail/wistumbler2-dev/

+ git repository
http://news.nopcode.org/gitweb/gitweb.cgi?p=wistumbler3.git/.git;a=summary

--pancake

On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 14:39:17 -0700

Post by Gordon Stratton

Post by Hubert Feyrer
It's not clear to me what you are proposing - some frontend using NetBSD's
existing infrastructure? What are the deliverables?
Are you familiar with the interfaces in NetBSD, which ones will you
need/use?

Hey Hubert,
I tried to answer those questions in the detailed proposal, which is
on the website I linked in my original post. I hope that answers your
questions, it seems to me like you may have only seen the abstract I
attached. I followed the guidelines you linked in your post for the
detailed proposal.
Thanks for reading,
Gordon

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[Gordon Stratton]

I really appreciate everybody's replies and information.

Thanks again,

Gordon

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